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Stewardship and Polarity + Jeremy Lent + Gina Yallamas

Distinction Between Purpose and Animating Idea + Jonathon Porritt + Sarah Scott

Steward Leadership + Kent Langley + Mark Eckhardt CEO Common

Synergistic Accounting + Daniel Wahl + Manuela Damant

Synergy +Robb Smith, CEO Integral Life + Sally Townsend, Outland Denim

Integrity + Edward West, Earthbanc + Gayle Hardie, Global Leadership Foundation

Perturbation + Christopher Cooke, The Reflexive Universe + Cindy Forde, Planetari

Clean Communication + Tyson Yunkporta, Sand Talk + Sarah Scott, The Kilimanjaro Project

Season Three- Steward Leaders creating Syntropic Enterprises for a world with a future

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Episode 36, James BartleCEO Outland Denim – If you want real change restore peoples dignity. Ending slavery. #zeroexploitation

James Bartle is the founding CEO of Outland Denim, the denim brand making jeans differently and setting a new standard in fashion manufacturing. Driven by the desire to curb the trafficking of young girls into the $99 billion illicit commercial sex industry, Bartle created Outland to generate training and employment opportunities for women vulnerable to exploitation and abuse. Over six years Bartle developed a unique business model that would enable each of his seamstresses to gain a covetable skill set in tailoring while earning a living wage, receiving ongoing support and life-enhancing education, and crafting artisan quality jeans to compete in the global premium marketplace. In 2016, he took Outland to scale, securing international investment and distribution to further the company’s mission to employ more young women while concurrently investing heavily in supply chain and environmental stewardship. With a background in manufacturing and start-up ventures, Bartle has taken a hands-on approach to developing Outland’s signature jean styles, eschewing automation in favour of craftsmanship. He lives with his wife and two young daughters in the hills of the Gold Coast hinterland, Australia.

Season Two -What it means to be a man in todays world.

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Episode 35, Robb Smith –sex and sensitivity post #metoo, creating a fabulous marriage and 3 stages of psychosexual maturity

Robb is a leader and social innovator in human development and integral metatheory, advising entrepreneurs, executives and thought leaders on leading-edge social innovation, vertical development, leadership development and company growth.

He is CEO and co-founder, with American philosopher Ken Wilber, of Integral Life, a digital hub supporting the global trend towards meta-integrative human capacities (representing ~4% of adults in advanced economies). At Integral Life, he has spearheaded dialogues, courses and events that build skills and tackle pressing problems, including climate change and the rise of populism and the end of US hegemony. He has produced media and events that include Full Spectrum Mindfulness, The Future of Christianity, The Fourth Turning, WhatNEXT, Beyond Seeking, the Climate Leadership Campaign and Loving Completely.

He was founder and CEO of Chrysallis, the world’s most comprehensive human development app, which offered hundreds of practices across more than 50 areas of human life. Chrysallis was nominated for the 2015 Goldman Sachs Healthcare Startup of the Year and the IONS award for Transformational Technology before being acquired in 2016 by ADURO, where he now chairs the Advisory Board and supports Fortune 500 companies to deploy full-spectrum human performance initiatives.

He was a co-founder and partner in Nevada Ventures, the state’s first venture capital fund, dedicated himself to building Nevada’s innovation economy (syndicating over $200 million in capital). He is a former director of Alere, a three-time Inc. 500 awardee, which became the largest population health management company in the United States.

Robb is a graduate of University of Nevada, the Venture Capital Institute and held the Certified Management Accountant and Certified in Financial Management designations. He is a fellow of Desert Research Institute, a former fellow of Aspen Institute and former trustee of Nevada Museum of Art. He was named to Nevada Top 20 under 40 lists in three different decades and in 2012 he was nominated for the TED Prize. He gave a TEDx talk in 2013 on The Transformational Life.

Episode 34, Matt Desmier A seemingly insatiable curiosity, distinctive laugh and unique dress sense are three of Desmier’s more prominent features, but it’s his ability as a branding strategist that truly sets him apart from his peers.

Having originally trained as a designer (before realising his talents lay elsewhere), Matt is able to apply a design-thinking approach to help businesses understand their positioning, their messaging and their audience’s motivations, and he uses these tools to help authentic brands evolve.

Through his agency Wise Old Uncle (a loose collective of equally talented individuals), Desmier and his team have worked with some impressive organisations, including the UK’s largest crowdfunding platform, the UK’s most respected insurance company and a global leader in mapping technology, helping them discover their voice, grow their audience and develop products and services fit for the 21st century.

A regular feature on many annual digital lists (including the BIMA’s Top 100, the Maserati 100 and the Digital Leaders Top 100, where he came Runner Up as SME Digital Leader of the Year), Matt is an influential digital champion in the UK and his counsel has been sought by the likes of 10 Downing Street and St James’ Palace, as well some other far less prestigious organisations.

When he’s not busy running around helping brands, he’s busy running around picking up after his two young children or, as a keen runner, he’s just busy running.

Episode 33, Peter Thompson – In this exquisite conversation with Peter Thompson, 5th generation farmer from rural Queensland in Australia (near Roma), I came to the realisation that stewardship of land with the fluency and capability that is part of Peter’s DNA is as relevant to leadership of any enterprise that holds the ongoing health and wellbeing of ALL of humanity and Earth. Indeed, the role of leader as steward in our business enterprises could well learn from farmers such as Peter.

In Peter’s words;

” I am a farmer who is passionate about agriculture and its valuable contribution to modern society. I believe we must operate as a team in conjunction with our urban counterparts for the long term financial and environmental sustainability of Australia. I believe by encouraging ways for people to connect to the land they will be able to keep their lives in a healthy perspective in this fast paced and rapidly changing world.”

Episode 32, Dr Mark Goulston – Dr. Mark Goulston is the host of the “My Wakeup Call” podcast where he interviews people on the wakeup calls that changed who they are and made them better human being and at being human. He is one of the world’s foremost experts on deep listening, radical empathy and real influence with his book, “Just Listen,” becoming the top book on listening in the world, translated into twenty languages and a topic he speaks and teaches globally including training managers of the Russian Federation in Moscow. 

He is an advisor, coach, mentor and confidante to CEO’s, founders and entrepreneurs helping them to unlock all their internal blocks to achieving success, fulfilment and happiness.

Originally a UCLA professor of psychiatry and crisis psychiatrist for over 25 years, and former FBI and police hostage negotiation trainer, Dr. Goulston’s expertise has been forged and proven in the crucible of real-life, high stakes situations including being a boots on the ground suicide prevention specialist and serving as an advisor in the OJ Simpson criminal trial.

Including, “Just Listen,” he is the author of seven books with multiple best sellers. He writes or contributes to Harvard Business Review, Business Insider, Biz Journals, Fast Company, Huffington Post, Psychology Today and has appeared as an psychological expert in the media including: CNN, Headline News, msNBC, Fox News, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, Fortune, Psychology Today and was the subject of a PBS special.

He lives with his wife in Los Angeles, California.

Episode 31 Mark Rowland – Mark is an Anglo-Aussie living in the US with his wife Danielle and two kids Jack and Emily.  Mark emigrated to Australia immediately after finishing his BSc in Management Science from the University of Manchester and started to work with PwC in Sydney.  He stayed with PwC for 10 years working in the Assurance, Corporate Finance and Consulting practices and gathered great experience working in 6 countries and 5 separate industries where he became interested in the underlying social systems in the different companies, industries and countries he was exposed to.  Mark left PwC when IBM acquired the consulting arm and became GM Strategy & Business Development within Coles Myer Limited (now Wesfarmers) where he remained for 4 years prior to becoming the Chief Executive Noodle of Wagamama in Australia.  At this time Mark had his first experience of executive coaching and it was so impactful that he decided to become a qualified coach himself and created his leadership style around coaching.  Mark then co-founded an e-commerce company in Sydney which was the first pure-play major shoe store in Australia which he exited in 2013 and relocated to the US to support Tony Hsieh’s Downtown Project in Las Vegas.  He is currently supporting the U.S. Air Force’s culture of innovation initiative called AFWERX working with the 670,000 men and women of the Air Force to increase the efficiency and effectiveness of grass roots innovation on base and also helping connect the Air Force with the private sector and academia.

Episode 30, Phillip Ullmann – Phillip Ullmann is the Chief Energiser of Cordant Group, the UK’s second largest recruitment and services firm with revenues of £840 million employing 125,000 people. Phillip has been responsible for driving the business forward since joining in 1996. This has been achieved through a series of acquisitions and organic growth but also by hiring highly talented people in key roles. As the original architect of the Social Enterprise at Cordant, it is now a vision owned just as much by the board and the senior management. Phillip has an Engineering degree from Cambridge University, an MBA from Brunel and is a qualified Chartered Accountant. He is married to Deborah and has four children and two grandchildren. He began his career at KPMG and Sainsburys’ and is a keen Arsenal supporter.

Episode 29, Jack Tanner – Jack is the CTO and co-founder of and has been involved in numerous blockchain projects and education events around the world since 2015. He completed a masters in computer science in 2017 and now lives in Amsterdam. He enjoys both business and technical problems and working with diverse teams in fast-paced environments. Jack is an avid globetrotter and has lived, worked and studied in the USA, Ecuador, Colombia, Mexico, England and the Netherlands.

Episode 28, Brad Dunne – Brad Dunne is the founder and managing director of Projects Queensland, a national Australian building and construction company that creates the built environments for most of the worlds exotic luxury retail brands. Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Prada, Channel and Dior are some of the company’s major clients. The company also works closely with Governments, Universities and  Hospitals as a trusted building partner as well as private clients bringing to life almost anything that’s conceivable. Having grown up in the Western suburbs of Sydney in the 70’s Brad quickly found his passions for surfing and sailing more suited to Queensland’s Gold Coast. Not possessing the greatest schooling credentials Brad made his way north based only on his ability to dream, his sense of humour and a good dose of curiosity.

After what on the surface appeared a blessed life Brad became faced with significant mental health issues, all unfolding and affecting everything within his life. Facing this with the absolute honesty and transparency and with all the faith and trust he could muster, Brad emerged again to reclaim his life not only mentally but with a greater connection to mind, body and soul. The very bottom of the darkest pit was in fact the opportunity to rebuild the foundations that stand him again strong and able to live a full and meaningful life with relevant purpose.

Today living in Perth Western Australia, married and with 4 Children, Brad runs the same company he founded almost 30 years ago. Other activities included the development company he runs with his wife Sharon and eldest son Bennet and his involvement in motorsport in the Porsche Carrera cup program.  Brad remains passionate about his surfing and takes advantage of the magnificent West Coasts waters through boating.

Having faced the debilitating real life issues of depression and anxiety that effectively went on for 15 years, Brad is the living example of what might appear to others as an “enviable” life, which can in fact be a life of living hell. His commitment to being of help to organisations supporting those with mental health issues or to individuals suffering depression and anxiety has become a passion which provides great personal fulfillment. Being able to give back through listening and a genuine care for humanity is something that we as connected human beings must embrace.

His fundamental beliefs are now based on these reconstructed foundations. “We are born to live full and meaningful lives, we are not born to struggle. When we become honest with ourselves we open the pathways to find our real values which lead us to our purpose”.

Episode 27, Christine McDougall – In this episode the tables are turned, and Amir Nasr from Episode 21 interviews Christine. If you want to learn more about what Christine does you might enjoy listening to this episode and why she is interviewing men on what it means to be a man in todays world.

Episode 26, Martin Lucas – Martin Lucas is an award winning strategist & problem solver who has modelled the Why of human behaviours: how to leverage that data and use it to drive science-based growth for marketing and advertising. Martin has just completed a three year study to decode the human algorithm in order to understand how we make decisions, what drives our emotions, bias, behaviours, habits and which science, psychology, philosophy and math you can use to model those insights to create positive change. His career has been a mix of award-winning Enterprise Sales, Marketing & Product Management leadership alongside the Entrepreneurship of creating three businesses and publishing three books.

Episode 25, Mark Eckhardt – Ordained Zen priest, CEO of Common, husband to Malene, dad to two girls, this conversation with Mark Eckhardt begins with a question that finds its full answer by the end of the conversation. At COMMON, a creative accelerator and community for social enterprises and projects, Mark advises a wide range of businesses spanning 20 countries and 25 industries using a blend of leadership development and organizational design methodologies. He is the creator of the Maniacal Business Attack, an immersive strategic process that aligns intent with action in the marketplace, and has been called on to help senior leadership at brands such as Calvin Klein, Taco Bell and Warner Bros. to create new approaches to leadership and responsive systems for operating responsibly in complex market conditions. Mark is a classical composer, and lover of tractors. He studied Zen Buddhism under the auspices of Bill Yoshin Jordan, Abbot of the Santa Monica Zen Center from 1997 to 2011. He took his first set of Priest vows in 2007 and completed his full ordination in 2008. He currently resides in Los Angeles.

Episode 24, Casey Lyons – Meet Casey Lyons, a 29 year old former carpenter turned co-founder of Australian nationally recognised not-for-profit Charity, LIVIN. LIVIN was founded in honour of Casey’s best friend, Dwayne Lally who sadly took his life after living in silence with a mental illness. LIVIN is all about living your life at the top and breaking the stigma of mental health. Connecting, supporting and encouraging one another to talk about their feelings and challenges because “It Ain’t Weak to Speak”. Casey and Sam, the two co-founders of LIVIN, just won the Gold Coast Social Entrepreneurs of the Year Award. Casey was a speaker at Big Blue Sky in 2016.

 Episode 23, Richard Hames – Richard Hames is considered to be among the world’s most influential intellectuals and foresight practitioners. An Australian citizen, educated in Europe and domiciled in Thailand, Richard has been honoured with numerous awards including a French Government Scholarship, a Leverhulme European Fellowship, the Mondadori Professorial Fellowship and the inaugural Lord Attlee Fellowship. Richard is Executive Chairman of the Centre for the Future, Director of HamesMcGregor + Partners, and Chairman of the Asian Foresight Institute. He is also an elected Fellow of the World Academy of Art & Science. Richard is a member of various advisory boards and has been a personal mentor to Presidents, Heads of State, and some of the world’s most innovative CEOs. A compelling public speaker, Richard is the author of seven books, the latest being Heresies:Essays on the Future of Humanity.  He is father to ten children and has fourteen grandchildren.

Episode 22, Adam Jacoby – Adam is the Founder, Chief Steward & Council Member of global democracy movement MiVote which was a finalist in the 2016 Singularity University Grand Global Challenge Awards, he. is a member of the UN Blockchain for Social Impact group and is featured in the book Democracy Squared.


Episode 20, Murray Galbraith – Best described as a creative polymath, Murray Galbraith is the mind behind some of the most progressive and influential projects in Australia. With an award winning career spanning multiple industries, including design, media, advertising and events, Murray is unlike almost every entrepreneur you’ve ever come across before. A proud father and mental health advocate, his online projects include Australia’s first ever successfully funded Kickstarter campaign called ‘Pretty Rad for a Dad’ and Dads.Co, a global community of digital dads. But it’s his offline work, in large scale, emerging technology events where he has truly made his mark. With a deep sense of curiosity and a unique ability to connect cultural, political and technological dots, Murray has helped design and deliver events like Pause Fest in Melbourne and Myriad in Queensland.

Episode 19. Simon KalinowskiSimon is a technology minded and spirited entrepreneur with a passion for ecological sustainability. He is a proud advocate for sustainable practices – particularly in the waste industry and through developing his own circular economy project; a regenerative farm in Northern NSW.


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Below are all the shows, listed from newest to oldest.

May 2017, Webinar on the 7 Steps of Speaking the Truth. I walk through the 7 steps with Mark and a real case in preparation for a conversation to be had.

May 9th 2016, Fireside Chat, The Coming Global Financial Turbulence and what we can do about it, with Dr David Martin

Integral Accounting, preview call, Dr. David Martin

Season #1, Episode #16  – Dan Pink, Best Selling Author; Drive, To Sell is Human

Season #1, Episode #15 – Brad Krauskopf- Change the way you work – coworking spaces

Season #1, Episode #14 – AJ Leon, Chief Misfit – breaking all the rules, building a global business

Season #1, Episode #13 – Don Beck -Spiral Dynamics, on the Middle East and natural systems design

Season #1, Episode #12 – Kevin Kelly – Senior Maverick Wired Magazine

Season #1, Episode #11 – Polly Higgins -The Earth needs a good lawyer

Season #1, Episode #10 – Cindy Wigglesworth – On Spiritual Intelligence and the frontiers of leadership

Season #1, Episode #9 – Hugo Spowers, Riversimple – redesigning cars, redesigning business

Season #1, Episode #8 – Frederic Laloux, Reinventing Organizations

Season #1, Episode #7 – Jonathan Jay -The Mindset of an entrepreneurial ‘lifer’ – solving problems, making decisions, self belief

Season #1, Episode 6 – Robb Smith – The path of large scale systems transformation

Season#1, #5 – Jim Breen – Going for exceptional, making the impossible possible

#4, DC Cordova – Social Entrepreneurship, Transforming Education, True Wealth

#3 Mark Rowland -The Red Pill, Roceteer Inc – Return on Community

 #2 Hiro Boga – The Soul of Business


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